Legitimacy

We at 4gfc think that the POTUS’s recent defense of Morsi in Egypt, calling him the “legitimate” leader of Egypt, may be a good time to review what it means for a government to be legitimate.  Ol’ Remus, from the Woodpile Report, has some good thoughts on this.  Listen up, Barack.

tears-540x433The federal government was not intended to be a charity, nor an insurance or retirement agency, nor doctor, pharmacist or health advisor, champion of the poor or rich, changer of foreign regimes, protector of the planet, educator, space explorer, diet and nutrition czar, arbiter of interest rates or prices or wages, nor trafficker in currency unsecured by gold or silver. As legally constituted it may neither promote nor restrict transfats, sugar, tobacco, alcohol, coal, gasoline, drugs, salt or food of any kind; nor may it enact legislation favoring or victimizing or exempting any gender, race or ethnicity. In short, those things DC is doing outside of its enumerated powers are unlawful.

This is a recitation of plain, obvious, acknowledged fact. DC is not the federal government the Constitution describes and, just as a degree in dentistry confers no authority to pilot an airliner, it exercises powers is does not rightly have art-link-symbol-tiny-grey-arrow-only-rev01.gif.Not only is the institution that represents itself to be the federal government an artful fraud, it understands and conducts itself as such, down to using surveillance, threats and violence to crush dissent and punish the enemies it creates. Even its ardent supporters concede DC is an unconstrained thuggery indistinguishable from any other third world, rule-by-law kleptocracy. In fact, they’ll point out DC is a ship run by mutineers, gladly and proudly.

Our one party two-party system conducts national elections as an auction on productive people’s future earnings, and the professional voters win every time. How is it not a joke when “our” representatives argue mere details of policies they hold in common, then vote on bills they haven’t read, mainly because they amount to a long list of benefactors, favors, payoffs, immunities and exceptions? For its part, the Supreme Court continues to endorse malfeasance with ever more bizarre rulings, as in this one where art-link-symbol-tiny-grey-arrow-only-rev01.gif the right to remain silent is voided if the right to remain silent is actually used, no, it must be specifically invoked, not by knocking on a tree to summon Woden, but by reciting a Kourt Koan to summon its sprite, the populace being held incompetent to administer its own natural rights. And please notice it wasn’t enough for the court to protect depravity, and then to endorse it art-link-symbol-tiny-grey-arrow-only-rev01.gif. They’ve now made it mandatory.

Read more at the Woodpile Report.

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20 Responses to Legitimacy

  1. We don’t even have a legitimate POTUS.

    • Do you mean because:
      A. His parentage is uncertain and probably illegitimate?
      B. His birth records are fraudulent and country of origin uncertain?
      C. His documentation, including multiple stolen SSNs, is illicit?
      D. His educational records are unverifiable?
      E. His entry into politics was accomplished by illegal release of someone else’s sealed documents?
      F. His elections were stolen by rampant voter fraud in Democrat stronghold precincts?
      G. He’s never really shown up for work and done his job, even for one day? See, for example, Jobs Council.
      H. He fraudulently charges the taxpayers for almost weekly vacations, despite doing no state business on them? See item G.
      I. His every act has been counter to the Constitution he swore to uphold?
      J. He has broken the law on an almost daily basis since in office?
      K. He has committed actual perjury by swearing that he has no other aliases when he has used several, and also committed the most blatant and daring lies on a daily basis?
      L. He has committed actual treason by aiding and comforting sworn enemies of the United States in virtually every foreign policy act he’s undertaken?
      M. He was never qualified, in the most basic Constitutional sense, to be POTUS, because his assumed father was a British subject, violating natural born citizen requirements as set forth in Minor vs. Happersett?
      N. He has violated separation of powers by intimidating members of the Supreme Court and treated Congress like his personal sex slave?
      O. He has abused executive privilege hundreds of times to bypass Congress and the People.
      P. He has used the executive branch to visit every imaginable tyrannical abuse of surveillance and denial of freedom or the most basic privacy to U.S. Citizens.
      Q. He has encouraged the denial of even the most basic right to self-defense through his support of the Zimmerman prosecution and of the strictest gun control legislation ever attempted.
      R. He’s eaten dog, which is, by law, unAmerican. I’m sure we can find a law somewhere.
      S. He has violated the most sacred natural law of protecting the innocent by supporting, dozens of times, in every opportunity he’s ever had, every conceivable legislative effort to secure the murder of the maximum number of viable human babies, not just in the U.S., but worldwide?
      T. He has failed every time, despite his oath to uphold the Constitution and the Law, to speak out against any and all horrendously illegal, divisive and scandalous behaviors by members of his own party or constituent groups, such as PP, Unions, NBPs, or any people of color or muslim “faith” whatsoever?
      U. He has, despite being slavishly adored by the entire press corp except for one outlet, actively taken steps to suppress that one outlet and demand even more obscene fealty from the other more whorish news outlets, despite the fact that it’s a clear abuse of power?
      V. All of the above? 😀

    • texan59 says:

      The problem is that whether he is or isn’t legitimate, he HAS been allowed to continue on destryoing our Country. Whether he leaves office gracefully in January, 2017 or not, our Country is being left in a shambles and I don’t know if it can ever be reconstructed. We can bemoan his legitimacy, but the fact is that he’s still there. Whether we like it or not. Now what? 👿

      • That’s the good question, right? My prediction is that scandals will continue to mount and people will eventually boil over when we hit the genuine crisis stuff. Right now, there are still enough people employed that they are still believing the propaganda about things “getting better.” They will not get better. Lots of things could happen, but I think we’re stuck with a best-case scenario of going through a long, painful process of removing the pResident (I think Congress will eventually do this) and rebuilding some sort of conservative party as an alternative. The real question is: how many miracles will it take? 🙂

        • Aussie says:

          See, that is the interesting thing about Egypt. They kicked out Muburak for a reason. They were beguiled by the lies told by Morsi, so they rose up…. and the army kicked out Morsi and his Muslim Brotherhood. Interesting times in my opinion.

      • “Now what?”

        Now the first and only law enforcement investigation to seriously examine the PDF released on the White House web site has found, beyond a reasonable doubt, that the so-called “document” is an absolute forgery.

        Now the Sheriff (Joe Arpaio) and his lead investigator (Mike Zullo) take the full results of their investigation to Congress.

        Then “We the People” make it known that we expect Congress to support and defend the Constitution of the United States.

        When the full results of Sheriff Joe Arapio’s Cold Case Posse 21-month investigation are put in front of Congress, they had better act in accordance with the Constitution and the rule of law. If they continue to allow the usurpation of the United States Presidency, then we would no longer a Constitutional Republic, and I don’t think that “We the People” will submit to such lawlessness.

      • In times of impending calamity and distress; when the Liberties of America are imminently endangered by the secret machinations and open assaults of an insidious and vindictive Administration, it becomes the indispensible duty of these hitherto free and happy Colonies, with true penitence of heart, and the most reverent devotion, publickly to acknowledge the over ruling providence of God; to confess and deplore our offences against him; and to supplicate his interposition for averting the threatened danger, and prospering our strenuous efforts in the cause of Freedom, Virtue and Posterity.

        The Congress therefore, … do earnestly recommend

        It worked for them. We might want to try it, too.

        • texan59 says:

          I just do not have the optimism gene in me that says Congress will do the right thing. Not with this guy. IMHO, 327 Congressmen could watch him shoot another man in the head, in the well of the House and it would still not be enough for them to do anything about it. Even if the House were to impeach him, what do you realistically think would happen in the Senate where you have to have 2/3 vote to convict. It’s just not gonna happen. I don’t like or agree, but I just don’t see it.

          • freedom1781 says:

            Yep. Impeachment for King Bobo will NEVER happen.

          • I never said the word “impeachment”. I agree that hell would freeze over before Obama would ever be convicted by 67 Senators, even if the House were to pass articles of impeachment.

            Impeachment is not the appropriate course of action for a usurper.

            History shows us that a popularly elected, but ineligible, chief executive in the executive branch of a government can be legally and constitutionally removed from office, e.g., Governor Thomas H. Moodie of North Dakota was a prime example. After he was sworn in and serving as Governor, the North Dakota State Supreme Court ordered Governor Moodie removed from office, after it was determined that he was constitutionally and legally ineligible to serve in the office to which he was popularly elected. http://history.nd.gov/exhibits/governors/governors19.html

            Also, two U.S. Senators although popularly elected and sworn in to the U.S. Senate were subsequently removed from office after it was learned that they were NOT constitutionally eligible when they were elected.
            Albert Gallatin [U.S. Senator seating unconstitutional and annulled]:
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Gallatin
            James Shields [U.S. Senator seating unconstitutional and annulled]:
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Shields

            H/T Mario Apuzzo’s blog.

            The appropriate course of action is to find that Obama’s seating as pResident was unconstitutional and every action that he took with ursuped authority should be annulled.

            Every Executive Order.
            Every bill that he signed into law.
            Every Judicial nomination.

  2. Aussie says:

    A certain person on another site is thick enough that he is over the moon because of the rebellion in Turkey. I do not like Erdogan at all, and after viewing yet again the footage of the attack on that boat that was headed to Israel, I continue to detest Erdogan. However, the protesters in Turkey are Marxists.

    If you look back at how the Arab Spring became like a cold winter you will see the Marxist link. When the protests spread to Egypt, it was not a popular revolt, but it was in fact the work of the Left and the Marxists in particular. That is why people like William Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn were on hand during those first protests. As I have always explained, the Libyan protests were different because the protesters were the relatives of those who had died in one of those prisons in Tripoli. I have read the whole story and remain sympathetic to their wants and needs. Gadhafi had set them up for a fall. He arranged for the mercenaries to be at the fort in Benghazi and the rest is history. The difference between the first Egyptian protest and Libya boils down to who was behind each of the initial protests. I am not getting into the Tunisian situation, but it was a popular uprising as well, and another example of Muslim Brotherhood beguiling the people.

    Now, however, we have had the 2nd revolution in Egypt. Was Morsi’s Presidency really legitimate? Actually no, if you think about how MB manouvered the whole thing. The real sticking point was the actions taken by Morsi as soon as he became President including his anti-Israel noises after he had made certain promises.

    Trevor Loudan was the first to mention the fact that the protesters in Turkey are not of the people. The Turkey protests are along the lines of the Occupoopers. They are Marxists, and yes there have been pictures of them waving their red flags. That is why I think it funny that at a certain other website, someone known to us is waxing lyrical about the protesters in Turkey.

    Personally, I would not want to be in Erdogan’s shoes because he has handled a few things very badly. He lost a round over some development so not sure what that is all about. However, let me explain something that I read around the time of the Libyan “revolution”.

    What I read at the time was that there was a strategy in place. This strategy was allegedly employed in Egypt. The protest started out small, and when there was repression of the protests, other people got angry and joined in so that the protests got bigger and bigger over the period that they were taking place. Tunisia had already happpened, and then they started the same thing in Bahrain, Morocco, Jordan, Libya (which was not really related) and Syria. All of the protests other than Libya were related. All of them were meant to cause a groundswell against the ruling power. However, in Bahrain the protests were successfully put down with the Saudi Arabians providing the force. Jordan has gone quiet. In Morocco the king gave some concessions to quiet things down. Only in Egypt was the regime ousted by the army. In Libya it took a civil war to get rid of the corrupt Gadhafi family, and in Syria they are fighting a bloody civil war.

    The turning point for the Egyptian army happened to be Morsi’s statements against Assad. He was encouraging the radical Egyptian elements to cross the border into Syria. The Army General al-Sissi, who was trained in the USA drew the line over this issue. In other words he was not wanting to see jihad being encouraged at that level. Morsi had in fact crossed a line according to moderates. The people who rose up in protest for this second revolution were in fact more concerned about the economy. Promises had been made but the economy was stagnant. For some of them Morsi went too far when he gave a governorship to a very radical element in the Luxor region. These people believe in destroying the ancient sites. Morsi had to go.

    As westerners we have no right to interfere in what is the will of the people of Egypt. It was their will that Morsi should resign and he refused. So the Army made him an offer he could not refuse, and he was arrested. Interesting times my friends, interesting times.

    And just think, we got rid of the wicked red haired witch !!!!!

    • Knight4GFC says:

      “And just think, we got rid of the wicked red haired witch !!!!!” Yeah! We caught this when it happened and we were hoping you would give your thoughts on this matter. Good for you folks, Aussie!

      • Aussie says:

        Not if KRUDD manages to convince people that his pack of misfits should remain in government.

        • Are you a Tony Abbott supporter?

          • Aussie says:

            Yes and why not? He is a Catholic and I am a Catholic 🙂

            I have always supported the Liberal Party because it is the party for everyone, not just the unions.

            Liberal does not mean the same as being socially liberal.

            • Good to know. I also think the LIberal party, and Abbott, seem like a good way to go for Australia. I understand that the Aussie Liberal party is more like our conservative parties here in the U.S. That’s not as strange as it sounds, since our American liberal parties have completely turned the meaning of the word on its head, and liberal and conservative don’t mean the same here as they used to.

              • Aussie says:

                that is why there is a distinction between the small “l” and the “L”. I cringe when I see people use “L” instead of the small one. I know the difference.

    • Interesting times, indeed. I agree with you about Morsi, but I’m crossing my fingers about what comes next. Just the fact that our marxist pResident fears Morsi’s opposition gives me hope. I also think you and Trevor Loudon are right about Turkey. They’re in a bad place right now. I don’t know anything about this news source, but they seem to think the turkish protesters are being romanced by the media for all the wrong reasons, just like others were in Egypt.
      http://english.alarabiya.net/en/views/news/middle-east/2013/06/25/Global-media-romances-the-rebellion-in-Turkey.html

      • Aussie says:

        the source is in fact reasonable reliable.

        Those protestors are more like Occupoopers than anything else. With the red flags flying they are Marxists.

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