Open Thread, Saturday 7 September 2013

Today, one month from the anniversary of the Battle of Lepanto, Pope Francis is asking all Catholics to spend some time in prayer and fasting in supplication that the tinderbox of Syria may not explode into world war, and that it’s human suffering may be relieved.

Barely half the founders and admins of this blog are Catholic and almost none of the regular contributors are, but most are some type of Christian, and this seems like a good Christian approach to the Syrian situation, in addition to other action, like petitioning Congress.

I did not pick up on the connection of this papal request until some of the folks at started discussing it, particularly PlainJane and BitterClinger. If you are not familiar with the world-changing Battle of Lepanto, you can read up on it here, but in summary, it was the event that turned the tide of Islamic domination in the Mediterranean and saved much of western Europe.  It was a long shot, and after hundreds of years of defeat or regression after temporary victories against Islamic forces in the Levant and Turkey, bruised and spent, divided by Schism and by the Reformation, western Christian Europe formed the Holy League to push back the seafaring dominance of the Turks.  Outnumbered and humbled by past failures, the Holy League turned to prayer and fasting in order to ask God to make them worthy of victory.  It worked, and Europe is mostly free today as a result.  At least, for now…


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48 Responses to Open Thread, Saturday 7 September 2013

  1. Pistol Pete says:

    Something to start your Saturday:
    If you are a Catholic,this is the ultimate honor-an audience with His Holiness
    Pope Francis Calls Woman Who Refused Abortion and Offers to Baptize Her Baby

  2. zmalfoy says:

    I’ll be going to the Mass at the Basilica down town. . .(I’m just leaving work in a few minutes). I’ll let you all know how it went. . .

    • Thanks, Zoph! Say hi to “Smackdown Jesus!” We await your report.

      Note: “Smackdown Jesus” is Zoph’s name for the large mosaic over the main altar at the National Basilica. The risen Jesus has his arms raised and a stern look on his face. It’s a pretty good mosaic, actually.

  3. texan59 says:

    For you military folks. Agree or disagree? Against replacing F-16’s and A-10’s.

    • barnslayer says:

      The folks that want to do this are either bored or have promises of bulging pockets courtesy of Lockheed – Martin.
      The article is right (in my opinion).
      The F-35 is a compromise. It lacks many good qualities of the F-16. Remember, the F-16 was adopted as a money saver over the F-14 so now you are compounding that loss.
      The vertical take off is a total waste of resources. You give up range and performance just so the guys in the grandstands get all giddy.
      The A-10 is a totally different animal. Low and slow the Warthog is an NFL lineman with roid rage whereas the F-35 is that foreign born kicker wearing two different shoes.




      • Knight4GFC says:

        I like your way and tend to agree with you… not that it matters. I am no military expert. 🙂

      • texan59 says:

        Kinda like Chuck Norris v. John Kerry then? 😆

      • Great analogy, Barn, and I agree. A few years ago the Canadians were considering buying expensive U.S. jets for air defense, and they made the trade-off, and some of their aero-engineers made a very strong case that for the price of a dozen hi-tech planes that would be too expensive to keep in the air anyway, they could buy hundreds of lower-tech jets that would be waaaaay more effective against any foreign threat. They were right. Unfortunately, I don’t think their government went along with their recommendation, but that’s what gov’ts do: make bad decisions.

        We’d be better off buying fewer F-35s just for show, and buying a lot more F-16s and A-10s, if that’s even possible, because they do their jobs better. The whole one-size, “miracle-jet” approach is for morons only, but the PowerPoint pushers love it.

  4. Knight4GFC says:

    My thought for the day concerning the WMD crisis in Syria:

    Yes, I agree that prayers go a VERY long way. Divine intervention is needed here.
    We, the United States of America, as a world power, have a moral obligation to make the first step to securing/destroying WMD’s to protect our allies (Christians in the ME, Israel…) and prevent them from falling into terrorists hands. However, in this crisis in Syria, we should not be picking any side. Both sides, Bashar Assad’s and the Sryian rebel’s, are terrorists and terrorist backed. They both hate you and would love to see you DEAD. Take down the WMD’s, and get out. Let them hash out there own problems. They would be doing us and our allies a favor. If retaliation, let’s say, on Israel or any other of our allies, then you deal with them harshly with military might.

    Ok… rant over. What do you guys think?

    • barnslayer says:

      I agree. You have two sides… bad and worse. The idea of assisting the “rebels” is too bizarre for me to evaluate and remain coherent. As oblamer sticks his nose into the region the results are more powerful sharia crazies and the loss of allegiance we had with more westernized crazies. I will not be surprised to see Egypt embrace Russian influence. We should not be there at all aside from our maintaing shipping lanes. Ideally we give no aid (no money and no military) to the region (aside from Israel). Green light Israel to do as she sees fit for her own survival including any strikes on WMD or nuke threats. If Israel can live with it, so can we. We get there by not having a moslem president and by fast-tracking all domestic development of oil, natural gas and nuclear power.

  5. What A Hoot says:

    Interesting pics from the Catacombs uncovered by “Indiana Bones”, supposedly. (remember if black background a distraction, ‘select all’ to highlight background of font areas to white.)

  6. Knight4GFC says:

    Australia election: Tony Abbott defeats Kevin Rudd

    • Knight4GFC says:

      Seems to me that Putin is gaining ground in this “cold war” with Obama. Knowing that it would be a bad show for the US if Obama doesn’t follow through with his crazy promise, we will go to war with Syria. And it has all kinds of potential to get “ugly”.

  7. What A Hoot says:

    How is this for a summary of BarryO?
    “Sadly we still don’t really know who Obama is because Obama himself doesn’t know who he is. But consider this…
    The Kenyan Hawaiian…the Christian Muslim…the white black man…the scholar with no scholarship records…the most opaque transparent president…the honest dissembler…the heterosexual gay…the proud abortionist father…the dope smoking cocaine snorting exemplar…the warmonger Peace Prize recipient (note: recipient, not winner)…the al-Qaeda fighting ally of al-Qaeda…the democracy supporter of the anti-democratic Muslim Brotherhood… the liberty statist…the 2nd amendment supporting gun controller…the Don Quixote venture capitalist who never had a real job ever…the powerless most powerful man in the world…the constitution hating constitution ‘professor’…the benevolent tyrant.
    Who is Barack Hussein Obama? An unfortunate psychiatric textbook case study most certainly.”
    ~ The Infidel Alliance
    from here:

  8. What A Hoot says:

    Just watched movie “Memorial Day” on Amazon instant. Highly recommend.

  9. Aussie says:

    Reporting in from Oz. We did it!! We voted out the Marxists!! There was a swing of at least 3% nationwide and in some States the swing was huge!! Tasmania is no longer under slavery via the Green Party. 3 of their 5 seats have been liberated from the ALP.

    My electorate looks set to change hands so that we are no longer represented by a corrupt crook!!

    This election is the first time that I have ever wanted to go deface some posters – I am not kidding. I wanted to go draw some horns on Craig Thomson (the former member for Dobell). Even my husband wanted to do some defacing work, but on a different one.

    The new PM elect wants to get rid of the carbon tax. If the ALP or the Greens try to stop him in the Senate then we will face a double dissolution. Maybe then we will get rid of the Green scourge for good.

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