Open Thread, Tuesday 29 October 2013



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Fearless and Devout Catholic Christian First, Loving Husband and Father Second, Pissed-Off Patriot Third, Rocket Engineer Dork Last.
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44 Responses to Open Thread, Tuesday 29 October 2013

  1. texan59 says:

    Pretty good rant here. From Blue’s Blog. “Let’s Think about This”

    • barnslayer says:

      Either the WH thinks these workers will vote democrat no matter what or there ain’t gonna be no more voting.

    • What A Hoot says:

      This has been going on for almost two years. It is some law somewhere. Once a year the company, that I am familiar with, puts in your 401k 7% of your income and that replaces the old pension program. This replaces pensions that not only involved a monthly payment but included medical benefits. It started happening about the time laws/regulations were trying to get passed for gov to have access to 401k monies, but a lot of that stalled as word got out. Another thing, but off topic, is all social security payments must now be direct deposit and I suspect one will soon not be allowed to go to their bank and take the payment out as a cash withdrawal. Instead will have to use debit card or check for all purchases and bills.

  2. solaratov says:


    • Knight4GFC says:

      AMEN! LIKE!!! πŸ‘Ώ

    • Coyote says:


      I am an American Patriot.

    • What A Hoot says:

      Beautiful poem. Sadly, someone linked me to this poem at a blog (guess??) that used this poem to shill for donations. NahNah, I saw it two days ago here in its plain words and unattached to using it to tug at the Patriot-heartstrings to provoke giving. No comment.

      • “No comment” heard loud and clear, Hoot. Glad you like your patriotism that way: free and heartfelt. πŸ™‚

        • What A Hoot says:

          Well, actually, I ended up comenting; not so much specifically, but the general trend toward this type of shilling.

      • Maybe the spirit of the HoneyTrail lives on, eh? Certainly not in places with HB-style “contribution thermometers,” or “star chamber” back rooms, but maybe right here and over at PN. I’d like to think so. You know what I liked about HT? For a long time it was a real community. I miss the fellowship, even though I never commented back then. It was a good vibe.

        • What A Hoot says:

          Yeah, scary sometimes to think we all might actually be on the same side; some just tackier than others. (Must admit, I do have a tacky area or two, too. OK. maybe it is three or four, one of them being my mentioning this all in the first place.) There is a fine line between “letting your needs be known” and bullying through cult-of-personality “persuasion”. An observation I have made with some pretty big conservative blogs is that they undermine their own belief structure of capitalism, and “I built this” by begging-through-emotional-manipulation instead of hustling for advertisers. I mean, you got a product and are obviously spending a full-time job’s worth of hours into it and have created a large base so go generate some revenue. Still leave up the donation button for those that are inclined to donate but don’t peddle patriotism as donating to a website. Or go to a subscriber base, or market your blog brand, or mortgage your house (afterall we are talking about reclaiming the Republic); just don’t be asking for handouts using the overtakers’ methods. So many blogs out there have graduated to online magazines and/or websites but still act like it is a personal hobby that the readership should pay for. Well, then charge a fee! Ooops, maybe the funds, I mean support, is much larger when preying on emotions and the need to prove patriotism? I have seen several of the conservative blogs fall into this trap but this last tops the cake. The reason it points to intimidation is that it is posted publicly instead of privately via email. When public it provokes in human nature to want to be one of the elite, one of the cool, one of the Patriots. Whereas a one-to-one email feels like, to the begger to be begging and to the recipient it looks like begging and if offended is most likely to quit the site. Suppose could say not my business, but I don’t…. I feel it is important to caution people to be wary of those that use these tactics, to question them being nominated leaders when we all are banded together against the usurper. (There is nothing wrong with simply saying something like, “Expenses are piling up, help would be appreciated.” or make a list of items that need funding and say will stop the donate button when exact amount is reached.)

          • What A Hoot says:

            Here is one of my tackies: The aforementioned donation plea reminded me of Michelle Obama’s letter to get donations for Barack’s Birthday. . . .

            • I did go look, and I get a similar feeling. And let’s face it. There’s nobody who does obnoxious, strong-arm fundraising like the Obamas. Being compared to them is NOT good. But you know what really bothers me about this particular case? I’m not sure anybody really asked him to dedicate his life to this. I know some who told him it was a bad idea. But now he wants people to fund his lifestyle choice? In any case, that whole community started with a whole different charter. I read every word back in January of 2010, I think it was. The words then described a community of equals, wiping the sawdust from their hands as they built a forum to discuss the nation’s issues when they weren’t working at their jobs. Then, whammo. Suddenly, “I run this blog, got it?” And it’s an enterprise on the way to changing the world, on a mission. And it’s one guy’s passion or obsession (and time, because apparently there ain’t no job now) that drives everything that happens. And if you have a non-approved opinion, take it elsewhere. But you still oughtta help pay for it! So, cough it up, Mac. πŸ˜€

  3. texan59 says:

    Just read this about ammo/lead/EPA. Not good. πŸ‘Ώ

    Added by Grunt: Cartoon by Chris Muir at

    • solaratov says:

      That smelter is just a few miles from me.

      Interesting note: They are going to keep mining lead — but it will have to be shipped overseas (China? Peru?), smelted and cast into bars…and re-imported to the USA to be used. Any bets on what sort of price increase we are looking at for bullets when that happens. (Not to mention ammo)
      Better start buying all the bullets you can and stashing them now. Even if you don’t reload in the future, they’ll be great for barter with people who do. Or, a way to reduce the cost of having someone load for you.


      • texan59 says:

        Guess I better by anything I can get my hands on. πŸ‘Ώ

      • This blows. Get ready for the disappearing ammo trick again.

      • Coyote says:

        Dammit. Why is it that I can not ever figure out the next step?
        This is some devious crap that needs to end.
        Fortunately, I’ve invested for years in the *other* precious metals.
        Can always accumulate more, but I’m well vested at this point…but it still doesn’t make me any less mad.

        • Well, I’m not well-invested at this point, so it really pisses me off. I was waiting for the prices to come down before I got comfortable, and it was just about to get there, and now this. I’ll probably go into Walmart tomorrow morning and they’ll be all sold out of .22LR and 9mm and such already. Cabela’s will have battle ammo, but it’ll be expensive again.

          • texan59 says:

            If there is a silver lining to this(a very small one) is that most folks aren’t going to even know about this until it’s too late. Get what you can when you can. All we can do. πŸ‘Ώ

          • Coyote says:

            ok…now I want you all to pay serious attention to your inventories.
            Consider this an admonishment from the worst ill-tempered Sgt. you can imagine…but get your priorities straight.

            Get. Your. F_____G. Ammo. Stored. Up.
            You’ve already been warned years ago.
            You were to have already have done this.
            This was supposed to have been already solved.

            Ammo…It’s NOT going to get cheaper or more plentiful.
            I have buddies in the industry. They marked their stocks up again yesterday.


            GO get WHAT you can GET. NOW.
            Concentrate on YOUR needs first. AIM for 1000 rounds in the caliber you NEED. If you already have 1k, get more. Stock up. It WON’T get CHEAPER. I promise.

            But mostly, quit jacking around. Get serious on the investment of those *other* precious metals. They will help feed and protect you. Do you understand this?


            • Message received, SIR! πŸ˜€ Actually, I’m in good shape with 3 of the 4 calibers of “other” precious metals I need, but the last one has been a challenge. And even the other ones always need some more company in the ammo cans. But you’re right. No excuses. Must. Acquire. More. Metal!

            • What A Hoot says:

              Got it! Priorities: Food comes after the Big A.

    • texan59 says:


    • Harvey says:

      Surely one lead smelter doesn’t supply all the needs for the entire country. Are there any statistics on what is already imported?

      • Harvey, I spent some considerable time trying to research this question, but I had to throw in the towel. It’s difficult to find out exactly how much lead metal is imported because it’s generally lumped in with other base metals in the numbers. I did find out that throughout the decade from 2000-2010, the US had a fairly large production of lead, nearly 400,000 metric tons a year, though that number declined each year, and I couldn’t find out what it was this year, but it’s probably under 300,000 metric tons. Is that all one plant? Could be. Since industrial demand is increasing, there must be increasing imports, but I can’t tell how big those are.

      • solaratov says:

        The smelter at Herculaneum is the only smelter in America that smelts from lead ore and supplies industry with “pig” lead ingots. There are other smelters which “reclaim” lead from batteries, etc., and supply lead to the industries that use it.

  4. texan59 says:

    Anybody watching American Blackout on NatGeo. What happens during a 2-week electricity blackout. Wonder if they’re prepping us for the EMP practice game. πŸ‘Ώ

  5. texan59 says:

    Hey Grunt – since you brought up the ol’ HS alma mater, thought you might wanna see this –

    The Lewis Cass Marching Kings will be performing at Lucas Oil Stadium in Indianapolis for State Championships on Saturday November 2!!! Their performance time is 4:33 pm and Class D awards are from 6:30-7:25 pm! You can buy tickets at Lewis Cass. Best of luck to everyone!

    Side note – they’ve gone 32 consecutive years. πŸ˜€

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