Open Thread, Monday 7 July 2014



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  1. Good morning fellow GFCers. Just in case the hordes of people want to “move” to our paradise I would like to remind those masses of the capabilities of this beautiful paradise whereit is a better place to just “visit” than to relocate to. πŸ˜‰ I love this place!

    The Great Ka`u Earthquake of 1868

    April 2 marks the anniversary of the largest earthquake to occur in the Hawaiian Islands in historic time. This great earthquake occurred in 1868 and had an estimated magnitude of 7.9. The magnitude and epicentral location of the earthquake are constrained by the distibution and severity of damage. However, due to the sparse population of the region at that time, neither the magnitude nor the location is precisely known. The epicenter was located about 5 miles north or northeast of Pahala. Like most of the larger earthquakes in Hawaii, it was probably caused by slip on a near-horizontal plane about 6 miles (9.5 km) beneath the surface. Many of the thousands of earthquakes in Hawaii, including these larger events, are caused by seaward movement of the south flank of the island. The eyewitness accounts of this great earthquake are a worst-case scenario for earthquakes in Hawaii.The best account comes from a letter by Frederick Lyman. He wrote on Friday morning, March 27, 1868: “Between 9 and 10 o’clock, a slight tremble, soon another, and another, at short intervals. Bella tried to keep a record of them, but soon gave it up, when they went into the hundreds during the day – some of them harder, and continued thro the night . . . with more earthquakes, increasing in violence. On Saturday, just after lunch, there was a hard one, peculiar, it seemed as if we moved backwards and forwards, 2 or 3 feet each time, for several seconds – it made the small children seasick – and it threw down some of our stone walls . . . but the earthquakes kept on too – every few minutes, often we could hear it coming from the south, then give us a good smart shake and pass on towards Kilauea, North East from us – at night it made the house rock and creak like a ship in a heavy sea, and we could not sleep. . . .” The large event early Saturday afternoon had an estimated magnitude of 7.1, and the epicenter was located near Waiohinu. It may have been this earthquake, rather than the larger earthquake that occurred on April 2, that offset the road near Waiohinu by more than the width of the road.T.M. Coan, in an article forΒ Scribner’s WeeklyΒ in 1871, wrote that “For four days this state of things continued, until at 4 p.m. on the 2nd of April, 1868, an event occurred which defies description. Such a convulsion has no parallel in the memory, the history, or the traditions of the Hawaiian Islands. The shock was awful. The crust of the earth rose and sunk like the sea in a storm. The rending of rocks, the shattering of buildings, the crash of furniture, glass, and earthenware, the falling of walls and chimneys, the swaying of trees, the trembling of shrubs, the fright of men and animals, made throughout the southern half of Hawaii such scenes of terror as had never been witnessed before. The streams ran mud, the earth was rent in thousands of places; and the very streets of Hilo cracked open. Horses and their riders were thrown to the ground; and multitudes of people were prostrated by the shocks. In the district of Ka’u more than three hundred shocks were counted upon this terrible day; people were made seasick by their frequency. By the culminating shock, nearly every stone wall and house in Ka’u was demolished in an instant.” Mr. Frederick Lyman wrote “. . . about 4 o’clock it shook as usual, but did not stop – shook East and West, North and South, round and round, and up and down – lessen, then increase in violence. It was impossible to stand; we had to sit on the ground, bracing with hands and feet to keep from rolling over.”There are several published geological models of what caused this great earthquake. The first is simply that the entire southern side of the island, bounded by the southwest and northeast rift zones of Mauna Loa Volcano, the Kaoiki fault zone between Mauna Loa and Kilauea Volcanoes, and the east rift zone of Kilauea Volcano, slid seaward on April 2. The seaward extent of the sliding block in this model is located near the southern shoreline of the island and extends from near South Point to Kapoho.A more complex model, based on the sequence of events between March 27 and April 2, and on newly acquired bathymetric data offshore, suggests that there are two separate landslide stuctures on the south flank of the island, and that each moved during this sequence of events. In this model, the magnitude 7.1 earthquake on March 28 was triggered by movement of a landslide structure bounded by the southwest rift zone of Mauna Loa Volcano, a fault extending from the southwest rift zone through Waiohinu and beyond the coast at Hanuapo Bay, and by the western part of the Kaoiki fault zone. This block, inferred to extend offshore at least 12 miles, was pushed seaward by intrusion of magma down the southwest rift zone of Mauna Loa Volcano beginning on March 27, when an eruption began along the upper part of Mauna Loa’s southwest rift zone. The earthquakes that occurred during the next four days were aftershocks of this earthquake, and probably indicated continued movement of this landslide block towards the sea.On April 2, a different, and much larger, landslide block, consisting entirely of the south flank of Kilauea Volcano, moved seaward and caused the magnitude-7.9 earthquake. This landslide is bounded by the southwest and east rift zones of Kilauea Volcano and extends offshore to the southeast nearly 25 miles at the western end near Naliikakani Point, but narrows to the east where it extends about 15 miles offshore from Kapoho. In this model, the Kilauea south flank moved because it was triggered by the shaking caused by the earlier magnitude 7.1 event. There was a small eruption along the southwest rift zone of Kilauea Volcano, and wide ground cracks opened up in the same area, soon after the April 2 earthquake.Such extension across Kilauea’s southwest rift zone would not be expected in the first model, because the southwest rift zone was not a boundary of the proposed active block. If large amounts of extension had occurred across the rift zones and summit of Mauna Loa, we would expect the eruption rate to decrease for a period of time as newly supplied magma filled cracks created within the rift zones. This, in fact, occurred at Kilauea Volcano following the 1975 magnitude-7.2 earthquake. However, Mauna Loa had 9 eruptions in the 10 years following the earthquake. Kilauea, on the other hand, did not have another large eruption until 1919 and erupted only once, briefly, at the summit in 1877, in the 10 years following the earthquake. These observations suggest that the earthquake disrupted the magmatic plumbing of Kilauea Volcano far more than that of Mauna Loa Volcano.Scientists will probably never be able to completely reconstruct the events of 1868, and some controversy and difference of opinion about what happened will certainly continue. However, the Hawaiian Volcano Observatory’s seismic and deformation monitoring programs are working to define the boundaries of the mobile flanks of the volcanoes and will work towards determining the conditions that lead to such large events.

  2. Pistol Pete says:

    I would like to wish President George W. Bush a happy 68th birthday.
    He did a number of things that infuriated me,like letting Ted Kennedy write an education bill.
    Failed to veto campaign finance bill (McCain-Feingold)
    Sign TARP
    most of all,let the left eviscerate him for 8 solid years without ever defending himself.He allowed his enemies to define him and much of the country still blames Obama’s failures on him.

    But one thing NO ONE could ever doubt….he loves this country and has a special bond with those who wore the uniform.It seems like such a very long time ago when we did not live in fear of our government as we do now.
    I cannot post pictures,so this will have to suffice:

  3. Shalini says:

    Hey all! Quickly checking in before my little one wakes up. I safely delivered my baby boy on June 30th. It was an emergency c-section but it wasn’t as bad as it sounds. Thank you all for your most wonderful prayers. They helped me bear the pain and deliver my baby safely. πŸ™‚

    • Knight4GFC says:

      Oy! Praise God! We were definitely praying for you and the little one, Sister! Thank you Shalini for checking in and letting us know how it went. June 30’th… a Boy! I bet your hubby and family must be proud and happy. God blessed you Shalini and may He continue to do so. πŸ˜€

    • barnslayer says:

      Congrats Shalini!!! Great news!!!

    • Harvey says:

      Wheee, Shalini! So glad to hear from you. And CONGRATULATIONS!!

    • Praise God! We’ve been thinking about you and praying often. Sooooo glad to hear you are both well. How is your good husband? Happy? And your parents have another grandchild! Well done, Shal!! His birthday is now the same as my late father. Give the little one a big kiss on the forehead for us!!

    • Blessings be upon you and your entire family Shalini!

    • Hooray! So happy to hear the wonderful news! Can’t wait to see pictures of your little guy!

      My son was also born by emergency c-section. I’d heard all manner of horror stories about c-sections, so I expected the worst, but I couldn’t believe how easy it was. I actually recovered faster, with less pain and fewer complications, from the caesarian delivery than I had after natural childbirth.

    • texan59 says:

      Congratulations to the new momma and daddy. πŸ˜€

    • Shalini says:

      Thank you so much, all of you!! πŸ˜€

      Yes, Knight! We have been greatly blessed with this little (though a little bit naughty) treasure and are very grateful for it. And for your constant prayers too!! πŸ™‚

      Grunt and Gruntessa, thank you for constantly keeping us in your prayers. Oh, Jim is quite the doting dad. He has no qualms changing the little one’s nappies, no matter how often, which is more than you can ask for in a man! πŸ˜€ Yes, another grandson to both set of grandparents. My parents have granddaughters but my in-laws were all hoping for a baby girl because it’s only been 3 grandsons in the family so far. But they all adore him, just the same. πŸ™‚

      Thank you, bluebird!!! πŸ™‚ I can’t really say my c-section was painless, though. I had fully dilated but my LO refused to push down as his face had turned the other side, so they had to go for c-sec. I had managed those labour pains quite well, if I say so myself. The c-section itself, was quick and event less but the pain for 2 days after was quite excruciating. But I am recuperating well and having the LO makes me forget all that! πŸ™‚

  4. Knight4GFC says:

    Watch in HD! Beautiful.

  5. Gruntessa gets to fly out of Detroit tomorrow. I’ll remind her to get all the knives out of her shoes.

  6. As you watch the riots break out over all the illegal youth being released into Texas and California and Arizona neighborhoods, remember this.

    • Well…..”Do you know who your enemy is? If you can’t recognize your enemy how will you ever win a battle let alone the war!”… Sigh and it gets worse when it’s on your own turf! Even in your own church!
      I totally understand this guys attitude! Because of what He knows and of his experiences with the enemy there is NO ONE that will ever tell him something different even his own……

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