Open Thread, Wednesday 3 September 2014

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  1. barnslayer says:

    So many differences. Lot’s to argue over. The same One God.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_denominations_by_number_of_members

    Catholicism – 1.2 billion[edit]
    A map of Catholicism by population percentage.
    Catholic Church – 1,166 million[1]
    Latin Church – 1,149 million
    Catholic Charismatic Renewal – 160 million[2]
    Society of St. Pius X – 0.5 million[3]
    Personal Ordinariate for former Anglicans – 0.005 million
    Eastern Catholic Churches – 17 million
    Alexandrian Rite
    Ethiopian Catholic Church – 0.2 million[4]
    Coptic Catholic Church – 0.2 million[4]
    Antiochene Rite
    Maronite Catholic Church – 3.1 million[4]
    Syro-Malankara Catholic Church – 0.4 million[4]
    Syriac Catholic Church – 0.1 million[4]
    Armenian Rite
    Armenian Catholic Church – 0.4 million[4]
    Chaldean Rite
    Syro-Malabar Catholic Church – 3.8 million[4]
    Chaldean Catholic Church – 0.4 million[4]
    Byzantine Rite
    Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church – 4.3 million[4]
    Melkite Greek Catholic Church – 1.3 million[4]
    Romanian Catholic Church – 0.7 million[4]
    Ruthenian Catholic Church – 0.5 million[4]
    Hungarian Greek Catholic Church – 0.3 million[4]
    Slovak Greek Catholic Church – 0.2 million[4]
    Italo-Albanian Catholic Church – 0.1 million[4]
    Belarusian Greek Catholic Church – 0.1 million[4]
    Georgian Byzantine Catholic Church – 0.01 million[5]
    Albanian Byzantine Catholic Church – 0.01 million[4]
    Bulgarian Greek Catholic Church – 0.01 million[4]
    Croatian Greek Catholic Church – 0.01 million[4]
    Greek Byzantine Catholic Church – 0.01 million[4]
    Macedonian Greek Catholic Church – 0.01 million[4]
    Russian Greek Catholic Church – 0.01 million[4]
    Breakaway Catholic Churches – 25 million
    Gnome-searchtool.svg This section’s factual accuracy is disputed. (November 2012)
    Philippine Independent Church – 6 million[6]
    Chinese Patriotic Catholic Association – 5 million[7]
    Brazilian Catholic Apostolic Church – 5 million[8]
    Apostolic Catholic Church – 5 million
    Old Catholic Church – 0.6 million
    Polish National Catholic Church – 0.025 million
    Protestantism – 800 million[edit]

    A map of Protestantism (including Anglicanism) by population percentage.
    Estimates of the total number of Protestants are very uncertain, partly because of the difficulty in determining which denominations should be placed in the category. It seems however clear that Protestantism is the second largest major group of Christians after Catholicism by number of followers. Often that number is put at 800 million.[9] Some sources, which put the number at 800 million, include also Anglicanism (see below) within Protestantism.[10][11] However, Protestant denominations in the world differ vastly to slightly theologically and do not form a single communion.

    Historical Protestantism – 330 million
    Baptist churches – 100 million[12]
    Southern Baptist Convention – 15.7 million[13]
    National Baptist Convention, USA, Inc. – 8.5 million[14]
    National Baptist Convention of America, Inc. – 3.1 million[14]
    Nigerian Baptist Convention – 2.5 million[14]
    Progressive National Baptist Convention – 2.5 million[14]
    Baptist General Convention of Texas – 2.3 million[14]
    Baptist Union of Uganda – 1.5 million[14]
    American Baptist Churches USA – 1.4 million[14]
    Brazilian Baptist Convention – 1.3 million[14]
    Baptist Bible Fellowship International – 1.2 million[15]
    Baptist Community of the Congo River – 1 million[14]
    National Primitive Baptist Convention of the U.S.A. – 1 million[15]
    National Missionary Baptist Convention of America – 1 million
    Myanmar Baptist Convention – 0.9 million[14]
    Samavesam of Telugu Baptist Churches – 0.8 million[16]
    Korea Baptist Convention – 0.8 million[14]
    Baptist Convention of Kenya – 0.8 million[14]
    Council of Baptist Churches in Northeast India – 0.6 million[17]
    Cooperative Baptist Fellowship – 0.5 million[14]
    Nagaland Baptist Church Council – 0.5 million[14]
    Baptist Convention in Tanzania – 0.5 million[14]
    Orissa Evangelical Baptist Crusade – 0.5 million[14]
    Baptist General Association of Virginia – 0.5 million[14]
    National Baptist Convention (Brazil) – 0.4 million[14]
    Church of Christ in Congo–Baptist Community of Congo – 0.4 million[18]
    Convention of Philippine Baptist Churches – 0.3[14]
    American Baptist Association – 0.3 million[19]
    Union of Baptist Churches in Rwanda – 0.3 million[14]
    Association of Baptist Churches in Rwanda – 0.3 million[14]
    Garo Baptist Convention – 0.2 million[14]
    Baptist Community of Western Congo – 0.2 million[14]
    Baptist Missionary Association of America – 0.2 million[20]
    Conservative Baptist Association of America – 0.2 million[21]
    National Association of Free Will Baptists – 0.2 million[22]
    Canadian Baptist Ministries – 0.2 million[14]
    National Baptist Convention of Mexico – 0.2 million[14]
    Manipur Baptist Convention – 0.2 million[14]
    Convention of Baptist Churches of the Northern Circars – 0.2 million[14]
    Baptist Community in Central Africa – 0.2 million[14]
    Baptist Convention of Malawi – 0.2 million[14]
    Lutheranism – 75 million[23]
    Evangelical Church in Germany – 24.5 million[24]
    Church of Sweden – 6.7 million[25]
    Evangelical Lutheran Church in Tanzania – 5.6 million[25]
    Ethiopian Evangelical Church Mekane Yesus – 5.3 million[25]
    United Evangelical Lutheran Churches in India – 4.5 million[26]
    Evangelical Lutheran Church in America – 4.5 million[25]
    Church of Denmark – 4.5 million[25]
    Evangelical Lutheran Church of Finland – 4.4 million[25]
    Batak Christian Protestant Church – 4.2 million[25]
    Church of Norway – 4.0 million[25]
    Christian Protestant Church in Indonesia – 3.6 million[25]
    Malagasy Lutheran Church – 3.0 million[25]
    Lutheran Church–Missouri Synod – 2.5 million[27]
    The Lutheran Church of Christ in Nigeria – 1.9 million[25]
    Evangelical Lutheran Church of Papua New Guinea – 0.9 million[25]
    Evangelical Church of the Lutheran Confession in Brazil – 0.7 million[25]
    Evangelical Lutheran Church in Namibia – 0.7 million[25]
    Evangelical Lutheran Church in Southern Africa – 0.6 million[25]
    Evangelical Lutheran Church in the Republic of Namibia – 0.4 million[25]
    Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod – 0.4 million[28]
    Evangelical Church of the Augsburg Confession in Slovakia – 0.4 million[25]
    The Indonesian Protestant Church – 0.4 million[25]
    The Protestant Christian Church – 0.4 million[25]
    Evangelical Church of the Augsburg Confession in Austria – 0.3 million[25]
    Evangelical Lutheran Church of Cameroon – 0.2 million[25]
    Church of Iceland – 0.2 million[25]
    Evangelical Lutheran Church of Brazil – 0.2 million[29]
    Simalungun Protestant Christian Church – 0.2 million[25]
    Evangelical Lutheran Church in Zimbabwe – 0.2 million[25]
    Evangelical Lutheran Church of Latvia – 0.2 million[25]
    Evangelical-Lutheran Church in Hungary – 0.2 million[25]
    Protestant Church of Augsburg Confession of Alsace and Lorraine – 0.2 million[25]
    The Lutheran Council of Great Britain – 0.2 million[25]
    Estonian Evangelical Lutheran Church – 0.2 million[25]
    Methodism – 75 million
    United Methodist Church – 12 million[30]
    African Methodist Episcopal Church – 2.5 million[31]
    Methodist Church Nigeria – 2 million[32]
    Church of the Nazarene – 2 million[33]
    Methodist Church of Southern Africa – 1.7 million[34]
    Korean Methodist Church – 1.5 million[35]
    African Methodist Episcopal Zion Church – 1.5 million[36]
    The Salvation Army – 1.4 million [37]
    United Methodist Church of Ivory Coast – 1 million[38]
    Free Methodist Church – 0.9 million[39]
    Christian Methodist Episcopal Church – 0.9 million[40]
    Methodist Church Ghana – 0.8 million[41]
    Methodist Church in India – 0.6 million[42]
    Methodist Church in Kenya – 0.5 million[43]
    Wesleyan Church – 0.4 million[44]
    Evangelical Free Church of America – 0.4 million[45]
    Methodist Church of Great Britain – 0.3 million[46]
    Methodist Church in Brazil – 0.2 million[47]
    Reformed churches – 75 million
    Presbyterianism – 40 million
    Presbyterian Church of East Africa – 4.0 million[48]
    Presbyterian Church of Africa – 3.4 million[49]
    United Church of Canada – 2.8 million[50]
    Church of Christ in Congo–Presbyterian Community of Congo – 2.5 million[51]
    Presbyterian Church of Korea – 2.4 million[52]
    Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) – 1.8 million[53]
    Presbyterian Church of Cameroon – 1.8 million[54]
    Church of Central Africa, Presbyterian – 1.3 million[55]
    Church of Scotland – 1.1 million[56]
    Presbyterian Church of the Sudan – 1.0 million[57]
    Presbyterian Church in Cameroon – 0.7 million[58]
    Presbyterian Church of Brazil – 0.7 million [59]
    Evangelical Presbyterian Church, Ghana – 0.6 million[60]
    United Church of Christ in the Philippines – 0.5 million[61]
    Presbyterian Church of Nigeria – 0.5 million[62]
    Uniting Presbyterian Church in Southern Africa – 0.5 million[63]
    Presbyterian Church of Pakistan – 0.4 million[64]
    Presbyterian Church in Ireland – 0.3 million
    Uniting Church in Australia – 0.3 million[65]
    Presbyterian Church in America – 0.3 million[66]
    Presbyterian Church of Korea – 0.3 million[67]
    Presbyterian Church in Rwanda – 0.3 million[68]
    Presbyterian Church in Taiwan – 0.3 million[69]
    Continental Reformed churches – 30 million
    Church of Jesus Christ in Madagascar – 3.5 million[70]
    United Church of Zambia – 3.0 million[71]
    Protestant Church in the Netherlands – 2.5 million[72]
    Swiss Reformed Church – 2.4 million[73]
    Evangelical Church of Cameroon – 2.0 million[74]
    Protestant Evangelical Church in Timor – 2.0 million[75]
    Dutch Reformed Church – 1.1 million
    Christian Evangelical Church in Minahasa – 0.7 million[76]
    United Church in Papua New Guinea and the Solomon Islands – 0.6 million[77]
    Protestant Church in Western Indonesia – 0.6 million[78]
    Evangelical Christian Church in Tanah Papua – 0.6 million[79]
    Protestant Church in the Moluccas – 0.6 million[80]
    Reformed Church in Hungary – 0.6 million[81]
    Reformed Church in Romania – 0.6 million[82]
    Uniting Reformed Church in Southern Africa – 0.5 million[83]
    Toraja Church – 0.4 million[84]
    Reformed Church of France – 0.4 million[85]
    Lesotho Evangelical Church – 0.3 million[86]
    Evangelical Christian Church in Halmahera – 0.3 million[87]
    Christian Church of Sumba – 0.3 million[88]
    Karo Batak Protestant Church – 0.3 million[89]
    Reformed Church in America – 0.3 million[90]
    Christian Reformed Church in North America – 0.3 million[91]
    Christian Reformed Church of Nigeria – 0.3 million[92]
    Reformed Church in Zambia – 0.3 million[93]
    Kalimantan Evangelical Church – 0.2 million[94]
    Javanese Christian Churches – 0.2 million[95]
    Indonesia Christian Church – 0.2 million[96]
    Church of Christ in the Sudan Among the Tiv – 0.2 million[97]
    Church of Lippe – 0.2 million[98]
    Evangelical Church of Congo – 0.2 million[99]
    Evangelical Church of Gabon – 0.2 million[100]
    Christian Evangelical Church of Sangihe Talaud – 0.2 million[101]
    Central Sulawesi Christian Church – 0.2 million[102]
    Evangelical Reformed Church in Bavaria and Northwestern Germany – 0.2 million[103]
    Congregationalism – 5 million
    United Church of Christ – 1.2 million[104]
    Evangelical Congregational Church in Angola – 0.9 million[105]
    United Congregational Church of Southern Africa – 0.5 million[106]
    Anabaptism and Schwarzenau Brethren – 3.5 million
    Schwarzenau Brethren/German Baptist groups – 1.5 million[107]
    Mennonites – 1.7 million
    Amish – 0.25 million
    Hutterites – 0.05 million
    Hussites – 1 million
    Moravians – 0.825 million
    Czechoslovak Hussite Church – 0.14 million
    Unity of the Brethren – 0.035 million
    Quakers (Religious Society of Friends) – 0.4 million
    Modern Protestantism – 464 million
    Pentecostalism – 279 million[108]
    Assemblies of God – 65 million[109]
    Fangcheng Fellowship – 12 million
    International Circle of Faith – 11 million[110]
    China Gospel Fellowship – 10 million
    Church of God (Cleveland, Tennessee) – 9 million
    International Church of the Foursquare Gospel – 8 million
    Church of God in Christ – 6.5 million[111]
    Apostolic Church – 6 million
    Jesus is Lord Church – 6 million
    International Pentecostal Holiness Church – 4 million
    United Pentecostal Church International – 4 million
    The Pentecostal Mission – 2.5 million
    Christian Congregation of Brazil – 2.5 million
    True Jesus Church – 2.5 million
    Church of Pentecost – 2.1 million
    Universal Church of the Kingdom of God – 2 million
    Pentecostal Assemblies of the World – 1.5 million
    Apostolic Faith Mission of South Africa – 1.2 million
    Church of God of Prophecy – 1.5 million
    Association of Pentecostal Churches of Rwanda – 1 million
    God is Love Pentecostal Church – 0.8 million
    Nondenominational evangelicalism – 80 million
    Calvary Chapel – 25 million
    Born Again Movement – 20 million
    Association of Vineyard Churches – 15 million
    Christian and Missionary Alliance – 4 million[112]
    Church of God (Anderson, Indiana) – 1.2 million
    African initiated Protestant churches – 60 million [113]
    Zion Christian Church – 15 million
    Eternal Sacred Order of Cherubim and Seraphim – 10 million
    Kimbanguist Church – 5.5 million
    Church of the Lord (Aladura) – 3.6 million[114]
    Council of African Instituted Churches – 3 million[115]
    Church of Christ Light of the Holy Spirit – 1.4 million[116]
    African Church of the Holy Spirit – 0.7 million[117]
    African Israel Church Nineveh – 0.5 million[118]
    Seventh-day Adventist Church – 17 million
    New Apostolic Church – 10 million[119]
    Chinese-originated and Chinese Independent Churches – 10 million
    Groups listed have origins in the Lord’s Recovery movement associated with Watchman Nee and Witness Lee. The Shouters are an offshoot of the Local Churches considered a dangerous sect by the Chinese government; due to the extremely decentralized nature of both groups, there is controversy over which house churches should be actually considered part of each. Eastern Lightning, which is in turn an offshoot of The Shouters, is very hierarchical (in contrast to its predecessors) and teaches that Christ has already returned as a woman named Lightning Deng.
    Local Churches – between 1 and 10 million
    Eastern Lightning – 1 million
    The Shouters – unknown, probably less than 1 million
    Restoration Movement – 7 million
    Churches of Christ – 5 million
    Christian churches and churches of Christ – 1.1 million[15]
    Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) – 0.7 million[120]
    Community of Disciples of Christ in Congo – 0.7 million[121]
    Plymouth Brethren – 1 million[122]
    Eastern Orthodoxy – 225–300 million[edit]

    A map of Eastern Orthodoxy by population percentage.
    The most common estimates of the number of Orthodox Christians worldwide are approximately 225–300 million.[123] These are the adherents of the recognized Orthodox jurisdictions (autocephalous and autonomous churches) that are in full communion with each other. In addition, there are some Orthodox splinter groups and non-universally recognized churches.

    Autocephalous churches – 240 million
    Russian Orthodox Church – 150 million
    Romanian Orthodox Church – 23 million
    Church of Greece – 15 million
    Serbian Orthodox Church – 11.5 million
    Bulgarian Orthodox Church – 10 million
    Georgian Orthodox Church – 3.5 million
    Greek Orthodox Church of Constantinople – 3.5 million
    Greek Orthodox Church of Antioch – 2.5 million
    Greek Orthodox Church of Alexandria – 1.5 million
    Orthodox Church in America – 1.2 million
    Polish Orthodox Church – 1 million
    Albanian Orthodox Church – 0.8 million
    Church of Cyprus – 0.7 million
    Greek Orthodox Church of Jerusalem – 0.14 million
    Czech and Slovak Orthodox Church – 0.07 million
    Autonomous churches – 12 million
    Ukrainian Orthodox Church (Moscow Patriarchate) – 7.2 million[124]
    Moldovan Orthodox Church – 3.2 million
    Russian Orthodox Church Outside Russia – 1.25 million
    Metropolitan Church of Bessarabia – 0.62 million
    Orthodox Ohrid Archbishopric – 0.34 million[citation needed]
    Estonian Orthodox Church – 0.3 million
    Patriarchal Exarchate in Western Europe – 0.15 million
    Finnish Orthodox Church – 0.08 million
    Chinese Orthodox Church – 0.03 million
    Japanese Orthodox Church – 0.02 million
    Latvian Orthodox Church – 0.02 million
    Non-universally recognized churches – 11 million
    Ukrainian Orthodox Church (Kyiv Patriarchate) – 5.5 million[124]
    Ukrainian Autocephalous Orthodox Church – 3.8 million
    Belarusian Autocephalous Orthodox Church – 2.4 million
    Macedonian Orthodox Church – 2 million
    Orthodox Church of Greece (Holy Synod in Resistance) – 0.75 million
    Old Calendar Romanian Orthodox Church – 0.50 million
    Old Calendar Bulgarian Orthodox Church – 0.45 million
    Orthodox Church in Italy – 0.12 million
    Montenegrin Orthodox Church – 0.05 million
    Other separated Orthodox groups – 10 million
    Old Believers – 5.5 million
    Greek Old Calendarists – 0.86 million
    True Orthodox Church – 0.85 million
    Oriental Orthodoxy – 86 million[edit]

    A map of Oriental Orthodoxy by population percentage.
    Autocephalous churches in communion
    Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church – 48 million[125]
    Coptic Orthodox Church of Alexandria – 15.5 million
    Armenian Apostolic Church – 8 million
    Syriac Orthodox Church – 6.6 million[126][127][128]
    Eritrean Orthodox Tewahedo Church – 2.5 million
    Malankara Orthodox Syrian Church – 2 million[129]
    Armenian Orthodox Church of Cilicia – 1.5 million
    Autonomous churches in communion
    Jacobite Syrian Christian Church – 1.2 million[130]
    Armenian Patriarchate of Constantinople – 0.42 million
    Armenian Patriarchate of Jerusalem – 0.34 million
    French Coptic Orthodox Church – 0.01 million
    British Orthodox Church – 0.01 million
    Churches not in communion
    Mar Thoma Syrian Church – 1.1 million[131]
    Malabar Independent Syrian Church – 0.06 million
    Anglicanism – 85 million[edit]
    Anglican Communion – 80 million[132]
    Church of England – 25.0 million[133]
    Church of Nigeria – 18.0 million[134]
    Church of Uganda – 8.1 million[135]
    Anglican Church of Kenya – 5.0 million[136]
    Episcopal Church of Sudan – 4.5 million[137]
    Church of South India – 4 million[138]
    Anglican Church of Australia – 3.9 million[139]
    Anglican Church of Southern Africa – 2.3 million[140]
    Episcopal Church in the United States – 2.1 million[141]
    Anglican Church of Tanzania – 2.0 million[142]
    Anglican Church of Canada – 2.0 million[143]
    Church of North India – 1.5 million[144]
    Anglican Church of Rwanda – 1.0 million[145]
    Church of the Province of Central Africa – 0.9 million[146]
    Anglican Church of Burundi – 0.8 million[147]
    Church in the Province of the West Indies – 0.8 million[148]
    Church of the Province of the Indian Ocean – 0.5 million[149]
    Church of Christ in Congo–Anglican Community of Congo – 0.5 million[150]
    Church of Pakistan – 0.5 million[151]
    Church of Ireland – 0.4 million[152]
    Church of the Province of West Africa – 0.3 million[153]
    Church of the Province of Melanesia – 0.2 million[154]
    Continuing Anglican movement and independent Anglican churches – 1.5 million
    Traditional Anglican Communion – 0.4 million[155]
    Church of England in South Africa – 0.1 million[156]
    Restorationism and Non-Trinitarianism – 41 million[edit]
    Latter Day Saint movement – 15.2 million
    The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormonism) – 15 million[157]
    Community of Christ – 0.2 million[158]
    Iglesia ni Cristo – 10 million[159][160]
    Jehovah’s Witnesses – 7.65 million [161][162]
    Oneness Pentecostalism – 6 million
    United Pentecostal Church International – 4 million
    Pentecostal Assemblies of the World – 1.5 million
    La Luz del Mundo – between 1 and 7 million
    Unitarian Universalism – 0.6 million[163]
    Unitarian Universalism developed out of Christian traditions but no longer identifies as a Christian denomination.
    Unitarian Universalist Association – 0.2 million[164]
    Church of Christ, Scientist – 0.4 million
    Friends of Man – 0.07 million
    Christadelphians – 0.06 million
    Church of the East – 0.6 million[edit]
    Assyrian Church of the East – 0.5 million
    Ancient Church of the East – 0.1 million

  2. solaratov says:

    “When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own palace, his goods are safe” Words of Jesus, Luke 11:21 (ESV).

  3. barnslayer says:

    I saw this on the Long Island firearms forum. The owner added vintage ivory grips. Yes, that’s the original manual.

    “The 1911’s produced from the early part of 1918 to 1919 were called the Black Armies. In order for Colt to keep up with war time production at the lowest cost possible they decided to spend less time during the finishing process. The pistol did appear not to have that fine polish and blue of the earlier ones produced and did have a black appearance. It didn’t effect the function of the weapon in any way, but easily wore away making the pistol appear to having been used more. Most seen today have very little finish remaining, while internally are actually excellent.”

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